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70 mph speed limit still relevant???

 
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Is the 70 mph speed limit still relevant?
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No
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Homer



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PostPosted: 14/11/05, 19:28    Post subject: 70 mph speed limit still relevant??? Reply with quote

In a time of advanced breaking controls, night vision instead of headlights and anti-lock breaks is it still necessary for a 70 mph limit to be inforced???
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PostPosted: 14/11/05, 23:50    Post subject: Reply with quote

No. It should be lower. Shocked

One day it will dawn on politicians and the public that global warming is a serious matter. It is no longer an option just to give lip service. It is time for action, and uncomfortable action at that, the first could be to reduce the upper speed limit to 60 or even 55. It's time for the boys to put away their toys Sad
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geoff



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PostPosted: 15/11/05, 08:45    Post subject: Reply with quote

The current 70 limit is in effect an 85 limit - almost no one stays below 70 on a motorway unless a police car is in sight.

I agree with the previous contributor. Apart from off-road motor sport, cars are not for fun - they are dangerous machines that burn our ever-diminishing supplies of fossil fuels and convert them into noxious pollution. Even driven carefully at 56mph, a 4-person saloon car with one person in it is a disgraceful polluter per man-mile. Our great grand-children will rue the short-sighted decisions made at the turn of this century.

Unfortunately, none of this will change while the alternatives are not available. People have to move about since work and food are no longer within walking distance of most people's homes. The bus service is poor and hardly ever 'joins up' with the rail service so it's the car Crying or Very sad

We need far-seeing government not only in England, but in the rest of the world - especially the emerging far-east nations who could so easily go the right way instead of following the USA's burn it while you can philosophy.

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Homer



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PostPosted: 15/11/05, 18:48    Post subject: Reply with quote

So on that logic surely any cars running on lpg or any other non-polluting means can go as fast as they want where they want, there is no question climate change is happening but as yet there is no firm evidence if the ''horrors'' it could cause...
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oliver



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PostPosted: 15/11/05, 19:03    Post subject: Reply with quote

No they shouldnt go as fast as they want because then when they crash they will burn and smoke and give off smoke and then what will happen to the car hopfuly it will be recycled but it might just be thrown in a hole
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Homer



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PostPosted: 16/11/05, 18:54    Post subject: Reply with quote

A car crash with a poor driver is as likely to happen at 90mph as it is at 70mph if a driver can read the roads he is not a major danger...

Obviously if the weather is poor etc there does need to be a limit, as there is at times on the autobahn
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geoff



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PostPosted: 16/11/05, 19:04    Post subject: Reply with quote

Homer wrote:
...surely any cars running on lpg or any other non-polluting means can go as fast as they want...


I'm afraid LPG and any other engine technology that burns things with air gives off CO2. Even electric vehicles have to be charged and where does the electricity come from - you guessed it burning coal, oil or gas. Nuclear electricity is fading out and renewables like wind or wave are not yet up to speed.

I think the point is that generally speaking the harder a vehicle accelerates and the faster the vehicle goes the more fuel/mile it takes and a corresponding amount of CO2 produced Sad

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Homer



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PostPosted: 19/11/05, 20:25    Post subject: Reply with quote

They did invent a car somewhere which gave off only water...
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Fiona



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PostPosted: 22/11/05, 19:05    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think hydrogen cars only give off water, but then you have to produce the hydrogen first and that uses a lot of energy and gives off greenhouse gases, so that doesnt seem to be the answer.
-I don't think speed limits should be raised for environmental as well as safety reasons- german autobahns are very scary.
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oliver



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PostPosted: 22/11/05, 19:23    Post subject: Reply with quote

producing hydrogen is completely clean it only takes power to produce it
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PostPosted: 23/11/05, 09:08    Post subject: Reply with quote

and the power comes from ?

I think you will find that the only carbon neutral fuels are renewables like wind and wave, or (yes, he's going to say the word...) nuclear.
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